rudy giuliani and that other republican, shawn hannity. >> let's present a realistic picture of how you can reduce this deficit, and then dare the senate to vote against it and dare the president to veto it if they should. >> and if they have to, only certain areas of government get funded. they have to be willing to shut it down -- >> where has rudy giuliani been napping? this of course is what the clowns and the house of representatives have been doing, they have been passing these ridiculous bills. and as rudy giuliani puts it, dare the senate not to pass it. the senate doesn't even look at them, rudy, they have been doing this for a while. >> i always enjoy rudy giuliani and shawn playing truth or dare, but they look a little out of touch. maybe that is because shawn has not been following it closely. they do have a bunch of misleading proposals and pass them, versions of them and push the ryan plan. we know what it looks like. it involves the complete disassembling of the plans. >> and by the way, that strategy has been a disaster, because democrats don't -- they don't feel dared t